(;GM[1]FF[4]SZ[19]AP[SmartGo:2.8.3.0]CA[UTF-8] GN[jackjin vs hushuai] PW[Benhu]WR[3p] PB[jackjin]BR[2p] DT[2010-11-13] PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/] KM[0.5] RE[B+14.50] RU[Chinese]ST[2] TM[3600.0]OT[3x60 byo-yomi] C[jackjin [2p\]: hi ];B[pd]BL[3592.5] C[Benhu [3p\]: hi ^^ ];W[dd]WL[3575.6] C[MilanMilan [9d\]: hi jackjin [2p\]: i will briefly review this game ];B[pq] BL[3547.0] C[MilanMilan [9d\]: b is smartrobot ];W[cp]WL[3494.9];B[ep]BL[3300.0];W[qo] WL[3284.6] C[jackjin [2p\]: r5 didn't follow my plan ];B[op]BL[3183.0] C[MilanMilan [9d\]: Jack likes this move jackjin [2p\]: it is very important to destory your opponent plan in fuseki] ;W[eq]WL[3158.1];B[fq]BL[3122.9];W[dq]WL[3148.1];B[ql]BL[2797.7];W[fp]WL[3111.1] ;B[gq]BL[2792.2];W[fo]WL[3093.9];B[ip]BL[2717.1] C[Benhu [3p\]: but now I think it's ok for b jackjin [2p\]: ok jackjin [2p\]: i see ] ;W[pm]WL[2839.6];B[pl]BL[2677.7];W[om]WL[2810.5];B[ol]BL[2654.7];W[nm]WL[2804.3] ;B[mk]BL[2644.5];W[kq]WL[2659.1] C[jackjin [2p\]: l3 is out of my plan, i thought w would play ar m7 Syptryn [5d?\]: Is white strong enough to invade? Benhu [3p\]: if w m7 MilanMilan [9d\]: m7... MilanMilan [9d\]: looks good for b Benhu [3p\]: m4 MilanMilan [9d\]: you just take M4 jackjin [2p\]: hehe MilanMilan [9d\]: yeah jackjin [2p\]: that's my plan MilanMilan [9d\]: ^^ Benhu [3p\]: ok。。。^^ Benhu [3p\]: not my plan ~ ^^ domie [1d\]: so what is W plan ? MilanMilan [9d\]: w plan is to destroy b's plan jackjin [2p\]: if i played, i wouldn't invade like this, different style betweem ben and me jackjin [2p\]: ben is very good at fighting MilanMilan [9d\]: you too Benhu [3p\]: w wanna live group and make some aji for b jackjin [2p\]: haha ] ;B[ko]BL[2534.0];W[rq]WL[2563.6] C[Benhu [3p\]: ^^ ] (;B[rn]BL[2314.7] C[jackjin [2p\]: i put myself in great risk ] (;W[or]WL[2090.1] C[jackjin [2p\]: this move is a good tesuji Benhu [3p\]: ^^ jackjin [2p\]: ben is very good at this kind of fight, weak group kill strong group MilanMilan [9d\]: haha jackjin [2p\]: p2 leave very bad aji ] ;B[pr]BL[2282.9];W[lo]WL[2086.5];B[lp]BL[2171.7];W[mp]WL[2079.6];B[mo]BL[2146.3] ;W[no]WL[2075.4];B[np]BL[2029.9];W[mn]WL[2057.4];B[mq]BL[2026.5];W[kp]WL[1548.2] ;B[mo]BL[2019.1];W[ln]WL[1545.1] (;B[jo]BL[1960.9];W[mr]WL[1398.5] C[jackjin [2p\]: no choice for both side jackjin [2p\]: but it is in ben's plan Benhu [3p\]: ^^ ] ;B[nr]BL[1613.6];W[lr]WL[1268.7];B[lq]BL[1544.9];W[jr]WL[1230.4] C[jackjin [2p\]: k2 is the key point for liberty jackjin [2p\]: kyu players can learn from ben's fighting move, it is helpful ] (;B[qn]BL[1228.4] C[ ];W[iq]WL[1185.9];B[gp]BL[1111.4] C[jackjin [2p\]: i dont know where i played wrong, but this result is a litter good for w Benhu [3p\]: maybe should K4 jackjin [2p\]: i think ben didnt notice i played k4 he couldnt make life at bottom ] ;W[jm]WL[1169.8];B[jp]BL[1094.5];W[hr]WL[1056.2];B[go]BL[980.9];W[fn]WL[1035.9] ;B[gn]BL[835.6];W[fm]WL[1029.8] (;B[jq]BL[812.2];W[kr]WL[1026.1];B[hq]BL[782.2];W[ir]WL[1023.3];B[gr]BL[747.1] ;W[qr]WL[998.6];B[ms]BL[717.6];W[ps]WL[991.2] C[jackjin [2p\]: very annoying jackjin [2p\]: it is a good lesson for semedori ] ;B[qq]BL[642.9];W[gm]WL[934.1];B[hm]BL[485.2];W[hl]WL[853.7];B[im]BL[470.1] ;W[il]WL[850.5];B[km]BL[468.8];W[kn]WL[845.3];B[jn]BL[464.8];W[jl]WL[843.8] ;B[ll]BL[406.0];W[ns]WL[819.6];B[os]BL[402.6] C[ikuy [3d\]: yyeah ikuy [3d\]: ! Disease [3k\]: jackjr stop spamming ];W[hn] WL[816.2];B[in]BL[388.0];W[ns]WL[813.5];B[nq]BL[359.8];W[rr]WL[756.2];B[os] BL[351.4];W[er]WL[719.7];B[ho]BL[327.6];W[ns]WL[717.0];B[po]BL[263.0];W[ls] WL[702.0] C[jackjin [2p\]: locally w got a big success Benhu [3p\]: I thought w have a ko eye if w cut... jackjin [2p\]: fortunately it my sente Benhu [3p\]: but it's wrong.. jackjin [2p\]: hehe ] ;B[ci]BL[255.9];W[ck]WL[693.0];B[bk]BL[184.1] C[MilanMilan [9d\]: so b wanna get sente here jackjin [2p\]: hehe jackjin [2p\]: thanks for your waiting =) ] ;W[bl]WL[637.7];B[cf]BL[171.1];W[be]WL[616.5];B[bf]BL[141.8];W[qf]WL[410.9] ;B[qe]BL[27.2];W[pf]WL[402.8];B[nd]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[lj]WL[192.3] C[MilanMilan [9d\]: nice move Syptryn [5d?\]: is black B-15 instead of C-14 possible? jackjin [2p\]: yes, another choice Syptryn [5d?\]: thanks jackjin [2p\]: pleasure ] (;B[lk]BL[60.0]OB[3] C[MilanMilan [9d\]: it's too late for Ben and Jack, maybe let's them have a good rest first ] ;W[qj]WL[333.8] C[varsan [4d\]: you guys are friends? jackjin [2p\]: yes, we all come from the same group ] ;B[qh]BL[229.5] C[ ];W[oj]WL[325.9];B[mj]BL[216.9] C[jackjin [2p\]: you can see that ben always use semedori to get benefit, he is master of this ] ;W[nl]WL[250.5];B[nk]BL[208.2];W[ok]WL[248.2];B[oh]BL[149.9];W[ni]WL[172.3] ;B[mi]BL[119.6];W[nh]WL[167.5];B[og]BL[115.7];W[mh]WL[165.5];B[li]BL[85.9] ;W[lh]WL[161.3];B[ji]BL[75.3];W[kh]WL[152.4];B[ij]BL[71.0];W[re]WL[111.0] ;B[rg]BL[45.1];W[rf]WL[104.0];B[nf]BL[31.8];W[qc]WL[98.6];B[pc]BL[27.1];W[qb] WL[94.4];B[ke]BL[262.6];W[jh]WL[54.8];B[gk]BL[242.6];W[gl]WL[321.8];B[ih] BL[227.4];W[ig]WL[319.4];B[hh]BL[207.6];W[hg]WL[292.1] (;B[fd]BL[142.0] C[jackjin [2p\]: the rest of this game is very complicated ];W[ie]WL[282.1] C[ ];B[ef]BL[96.9] C[ ];W[hc]WL[187.8];B[jf]BL[73.1] C[ ];W[jg]WL[183.9] C[MilanMilan [9d\]: b wanna H15? MilanMilan [9d\]: but too early ];B[jc] BL[32.0] (;W[fc]WL[460.9] C[jackjin [2p\]: the rest of this game too complicated jackjin [2p\]: very hard to figure out variations jackjin [2p\]: if i cant get benefit through attacking, w is ahead jackjin [2p\]: sorry, because it is too late here, so i'm preparing to stop here jackjin [2p\]: thanks for your watching and waiting Benhu [3p\]: thanks everyone ] ;B[hd]BL[271.9];W[gd]WL[436.3];B[ge]BL[266.5];W[gc]WL[434.9];B[he]BL[264.1] ;W[gh]WL[422.9];B[gi]BL[255.8];W[fi]WL[413.3];B[fh]BL[245.9];W[gg]WL[410.8] ;B[gj]BL[244.5];W[ri]WL[291.3];B[rh]BL[214.6];W[rk]WL[288.0] C[MilanMilan [9d\]: w aiming for a gote eye ];B[rl]BL[201.5] C[MilanMilan [9d\]: later l14. b k15 MilanMilan [9d\]: then w N14 ];W[lf] WL[243.4];B[kf]BL[139.5];W[mf]WL[237.7];B[me]BL[133.7];W[eh]WL[225.0];B[cc] BL[114.3];W[cd]WL[203.0];B[bc]BL[108.3];W[dc]WL[201.3];B[bd]BL[106.4];W[ic] WL[199.4];B[jb]BL[93.9];W[id]WL[194.3];B[if]BL[68.9];W[fe]WL[176.6];B[ff] BL[65.4];W[ee]WL[175.0];B[de]BL[22.0];W[ed]WL[172.7];B[fg]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[ce] WL[160.2];B[df]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[oe]WL[154.4];B[ne]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[ng]WL[149.5] ;B[of]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[pi]WL[137.4];B[ph]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[sj]WL[130.1];B[ae] BL[246.3];W[pb]WL[94.5];B[ob]BL[239.3];W[oa]WL[82.2];B[nb]BL[236.9];W[pn] WL[67.2];B[ro]BL[229.7];W[ej]WL[245.3];B[ek]BL[197.7];W[dj]WL[240.7];B[bj] BL[167.5];W[dl]WL[234.8];B[fj]BL[110.9];W[ei]WL[231.0];B[ki]BL[105.2];W[cb] WL[214.0];B[bb]BL[101.9];W[db]WL[212.9];B[al]BL[92.4];W[am]WL[209.5];B[ak] BL[90.9];W[bm]WL[207.8];B[ba]BL[88.7];W[ib]WL[111.8];B[pe]BL[43.9];W[rp] WL[79.6];B[qp]BL[41.3];W[jd]WL[67.7];B[kd]BL[38.3];W[lb]WL[53.9];B[kc]BL[1.8] ;W[la]WL[48.5];B[sf]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[rd]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[pa]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[ja] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[le]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[kg]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[rb]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[sb] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[sc]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[ra]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[sa]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[mc] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[nc]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[sb]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[mg]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[lg] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[sa]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[mb]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[od]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[sb] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[qi]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[qk]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[sa]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[ad] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[af]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[sb]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[sh]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[si] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[sa]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[hi]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[ii]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[sb] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[sl]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[sk]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[sa]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[cj] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[bh]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[sb]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[qs]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[rc] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[os]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[oo]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[kl]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[ps] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[oi]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[nj]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[os]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[bi] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[ai]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[ps]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[pj]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[pk] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[os]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[qm]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[rm]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[ps] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[ia]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[rs]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[ka]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[ha] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[ja]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[qa]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[na]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[jk] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[kj]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[el]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[ca]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[da] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[dh]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[fk]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[oq]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[os] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[fl]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[hk]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[hj]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[fk] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[hb]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[gb]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[fl]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[hf] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[gf]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[fk]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[ga]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[fa] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[fl]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[lm]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[ml]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[fk] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[fs]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[dk]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[es]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[ds] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[sp]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[sq]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[so]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[eg] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[dg]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[se]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[hs]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[is] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[gs]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[sg]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[pi]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[sf] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[pa]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[ik]WL[60.0]OW[3];B[oa]BL[60.0]OB[3];W[] WL[60.0]OW[3];B[]BL[60.0]OB[3] TW[ea:ec][ga][sa][fb][hb][rb][sc:sd][fd][mg][rj][ek][cl:co][fl][dm:ep][an:bs][cq:cs][dr][sr:ss][js:ks][ms][qs] TB[aa:ad][la:md][kb][oc][oe][ag:cg][ah][ch][bi][hi][aj][lj][nl:no][lm:lo][mm:mn][om:oo][pm:pn][qm][sm:sn][hn][kn][io][qo][hp][mp][pp] C[jackjin [2p\]: thanks Benhu [3p\]: thanks jackjin [2p\]: lucky MilanMilan [9d\]: gg ] ) (;W[jd];B[kd];W[ic] (;B[jb];W[fc] C[Aokame [2k\]: k-17 bigger then seperate top? lalalalala [2d?\]: w likes some risk ] ) (;B[fb] C[slob [1k\]: is g15 something? ];W[kc] C[jackjin [2p\]: k16, j17 helps w stronger jackjin [2p\]: hard to seperate rat [1k?\]: yes jackjin [2p\]: even if i seperate w, w can easily make life ] ))) (;B[jg] C[ProoMas [4k\]: yeah that's just a net jackjin [2p\]: hehe ];W[ng] C[jackjin [2p\]: o13 is w sente ])) (;B[mj] (;W[ml]) (;W[pn];B[ro] (;W[ml] C[slob [1k\]: oh thats so tricky ]) (;W[nl] C[lalalalala [2d?\]: ok ];B[nk] C[ProoMas [4k\]: wow ];W[ml] C[jackjin [2p\]: very bad aji here ProoMas [4k\]: amazing ])))) (;B[gm];W[fr] C[dchyang [1d?\]: is this better for w? ];B[fl];W[po];B[oo];W[mp];B[nq];W[pn] ;B[rr];W[qq];B[qr] C[Benhu [3p\]: alive ];W[jk] C[jackjin [2p\]: b right bottom corner only has two points =( ])) (;B[ir] C[Clynch7 [2k\]: or to live? Benhu [3p\]: yeah ] (;W[qr] C[Benhu [3p\]: sacrific Sprooth [10k\]: so k2 is to gain temporary liberties for the fight, but not intending to live? Clynch7 [2k\]: ok cool jackjin [2p\]: i think w just sacrific k2 group and make life in sente for r5 group dchyang [1d?\]: who has more liberties? ] ;B[ms] C[Sprooth [10k\]: i am so very far from understanding such ideas ]) (;W[ns];B[nq];W[qr];B[ps];W[oo] C[slob [1k\]: w gets all moves all over b outside jackjin [2p\]: yes jackjin [2p\]: this variation is good for w Syptryn [5d?\]: black r4 not painful for white? ] ;B[qp];W[ro] C[domie [1d\]: what exactly is W gain in exchange for the sacrifice ? jackjin [2p\]: yes slob [1k\]: strong group with semedori ProoMas [4k\]: hmm rat [1k?\]: corner and life jackjin [2p\]: bottom was b territory, so w doesnt lose much point dchyang [1d?\]: what is semedori? domie [1d\]: W becomes strong yes but nothing to attack ProoMas [4k\]: semeadori is slob [1k\]: forced to play in own territory entropper [1d\]: sexually transimitted disease ProoMas [4k\]: when you'll have to kill stones eventually Syptryn [5d?\]: it means that black has to capture white at end game, so not as many points as it looks ProoMas [4k\]: and lose points dchyang [1d?\]: thx ProoMas [4k\]: because of it jackjin [2p\]: so i had to avoid this variation ] ))) (;B[jp];W[hp] C[MilanMilan [9d\]: too bad aji jackjin [2p\]: no matter how i defense, i cant remove bad aji ] )) (;W[mp] C[Benhu [3p\]: too complex in here.. jackjin [2p\]: actually i hadn't figured out what to do in the game ^^ ] ;B[mo] C[Benhu [3p\]: I guess you knw it ^^ Benhu [3p\]: know jackjin [2p\]: very complicated jackjin [2p\]: both in risk MilanMilan [9d\]: yeah ] ;W[no];B[np] C[jackjin [2p\]: hehe, maybe it would be over very soon if we chose this fight ] )) (;B[mp] C[Benhu [3p\]: R7 maybe ];W[qm] C[jackjin [2p\]: if i played at n4 jackjin [2p\]: there is still some aji at bottom ] ;B[jd];W[iq] C[slob [1k\]: oh so this would be going with w plan then? Benhu [3p\]: yeah~ jackjin [2p\]: something like j3 is annoying Benhu [3p\]: that's my plan ^^ slob [1k\]: so b choosed to break w plan with s6? jackjin [2p\]: so i was not satisfied in this variation MilanMilan [9d\]: s6 very agressive jackjin [2p\]: slob, yes =) ] ))